In his first term in office, President Trump, via the Doha agreement, agreed to surrender Afghanistan to the Taliban. The agreement was between the US and the Taliban – the ( US ally ) Afghan government was never permitted to take part in the negotiations.
This week, President Trump commenced negotiations with Russia to end the Ukraine war. The Ukraine government was not permitted to take part in these negotiations.
The Ukraine negotiation is a surrender agreement on the part of the US every bit as much the Afghan negotiation was. Trump has already conceded everything that was important before the negotiations even began- that Russia would not have to give back Ukrainian territory, that Ukraine would not be allowed to enter NATO.
The NATO nations have given significant support to Ukraine, But, like Ukraine, they’re not part of the negotiations, either. The NATO allies weren’t even notified beforehand about the talks.
Trump has been exceptionally disrespectful towards the Ukrainian leadership, and is proposing that Ukraine repay the US on onerous terms, terms even more severe than were imposed on Germany after the first World War. This, while he has been exceptionally deferential towards Putin and Russia. The Russians can’t believe their good fortune.
It’s pretty easy to reach a deal when you give the adversary everything that he wants. Trump did just that in Afghanistan, and he’s doing it now in Ukraine.
Our alliances, and our power are being dismantled before our very eyes.
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I am terrified for our children, and the future of this country.
Trump is not just flat out wrong regarding Ukraine. He's so wrong that it must be deliberate, which begs the question - what is he up to? I'll take his domestic policies all day long but the last few days call for the men in white coats to take a look at him.
In the end generations of European leaders have allowed this. Despite a population and an economy which dwarves those of Russia, despite being easily capable of defending themselves militarily - if they chose to do so - they decided instead that Euro-socialism, degenerate welfare, suicidal immigration and cowering under a military umbrella provided by American taxpayers were preferable.
That provided the opportunity for a Trump to appear and pull their pants down and no amount of shrieking will hide that fact. Special mention must also be made of Jake Sullivan, a coward who so slow-walked aid to Ukraine that a perilously weak Russia was effectively rescued from military defeat in late 2022.
Unless Trump is on a massive bluff (which he might be) he will soon learn that being friendless is no fun internationally. If he will drop friends and allies on a whim then why be a friend or ally? Hopefully someone will talk sense into him and he sees that crashing the Russian economy is the way to go but he's on a charge and in no mood to listen.
It's been clear for a long time that Ukraine will be carved up in some way in the end. The lesson remains the same for the UK and EU nations: grow up and start taking care of yourselves and your own neighbourhood. China's rise will inexorably take more of US attention and cash. Speaking honestly with friends while shouldering your fair share of the burden of defence will make for better US/UK/EU relations anyway.
Oh bullsh**, Ukraine was a vassal state of Russia before Obama, Nuland, and the scumbag McCain arraigned a coup to take it away from them. NATO was never supposed to expand beyond it's original members, that was part of the deal when the Soviets fell.
The actions of both the US and NATO caused this situation. If NATO continues on it's path it will cause a Nuclear War, these negotiations put a stop to that. The only thing we need to hear from Ukraine is an accounting of our money, and an accounting of the money that was being exchanged in Ukraine during the Obama and Biden Presidencies.
Remember the one "Impeachment" of Trumps first Presidency was initiated because of a phonecall where Trump asked for an accounting of that money.
Ukraine became the pawn of the Left in both the US and Europe and this is what it cost them.
Pete none of the Governments of Europe are our friends, but they will learn what FAIR trade means and the only reason NATO exists is for the US to maintain a military presence in Europe because two world wars have proven they can't prevent themselves from being rolled over.
Ukraine proves what happens when the eastern powers of Europe don't fear U.S. intervention.
In 1991, the people of Ukraine voted to be an independent nation, with 92% of the vote. .Russia formally agreed to respect the borders of Ukraine, I believe twice.
Very many of the countries and peoples of Europe are our friends, But the condo salesman seems determined to change that. He shows contempt and disrespect for our friends, while he bends the knee towards America’s enemies. Why is that?
Let’s stick to only the government of the UK.
The British supported the US invasions of both Iraq and Afghanistan. 179 British troops were killed in Iraq; 456 were killed in Afghanistan.
Under both Labour and Conservative Governments, the British have Strongly pro US and pro NATO.
How could they be more friendly than that?
Troll -
On the contrary, both world wars demonstrate that European nations are rather difficult to roll over. European peoples are tough. They have endured incredible suffering over the centuries and endured.
Point of order: NATO didn't "expand" one inch eastward. It can only take in countries which apply to join. That Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania and Bulgaria all joined asap when the Soviet Union collapsed is testament to life under Russian domination. They all know what that entails and have no wish for a replay.
Regardless of the history, Putin alone is the aggressor and bears responsibility for a sovereign, independent Ukraine being invaded. Whatever Trump intends to achieve he simply cannot begin by inverting history.
Look, you know I supported him. I maintain that his domestic policies are urgent and essential and I wish him every success in them, but Trump's language around Ukraine and Zelensky is beneath his office and it demeans the US.
The Brits are one of only two true allies of the US, one people separated by a common language.
Our children will be safe and prosperous of that have no doubt.
Yes they did and they had full access to their navy yard in crimea and open trade with economic ties. Obama, Nuland, and scumbag McCain toppled that leading first to the crimea war and the tragedy we have now.
And I am not a fan of Pooty Poot, he's an animal that should have been eliminated two decades ago. Russia is a thugacracy, but it has thousands of nukes pointed at us and us at them. They get treated still with the mad doctrine in the arena of military conflict. That's just the way it is.
The European people are the conquerors of the world and the majority of Americans blood lines. No one doubts of their toughness or fortitude. What we lack is the confidence that because of those traits that you all once again won't start killing each other.
The last two wars we had to get assets on the ground and that takes time and logistics. The permanent presence of the US in Europe as the heart of NATO means we can control the European combat theater before anything can build into anything. That formulae has kept the peace for over 50 years now, It's the reason you haven't been invading each other constantly like you have the prior 1500 years of history.
You can thank us for your prosperity.
If they don't buy our goods, and they don't pay their fair share of the cost to defend them Phantom how are they our friends ? Please explain it to me. Define how that friendship is expressed.
In the last years, more European countries have reached the 2% defense, spending target, or have moved in that direction.
The Europeans and Canadians are huge importers of US made goods. American automobiles Will be found on every road across Canada. The US and Canadian auto industries are completely integrated. You will not hear Ford or General Motors complain about how they are treated in Canada.
Europe is a bit of a different story- Relatively few US cars are sold in Europe Because the US auto makers don’t make too many cars or light trucks that the Europeans want to buy. A big F150 light truck, which many Americans will use as the family car, Would be hard to maneuver down the narrow streets in European towns.
I am not saying that there aren’t particular areas where the Canadians or Europeans have unfair, tariffs, or other rules, But the US isn’t always a free trader either ( The US effectively does not allow imports of foreign sugar ).
The US trade deficit with Canada includes a lot of US imports of Canadian energy - Oil, natural gas, Hydroelectric Power from Quebec. How is that a bad thing for the US, To have a stable supply of energy, including clean, hydroelectric, electricity, from a reliable and friendly neighbor?
The most successful European airline over time has been Ryanair - Fleet of 321 aircraft are Boeing 737s , all of them manufactured in the United States.
The US trade war with Canada and Europe is incoherent, harmful to US companies, who never asked for these tariffs. Trump renegotiated NAFTA with Canada when he was in the last time, and his position is now that the earlier Trump deal was no good.
Phantom -
I'm a fan of pick ups. I think the're great. But they look ridiculous on British and European roads. The only place they make any sense is North America, and even then I mean your 20 year old Chevy. Pick ups now are vastly over-priced and over-specced.
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